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Why your physiotherapist shouldn't just slap machines on you and walk away
Jethro Constant shares his journey as the owner of Constance Care Physiotherapy and explains why mobile physiotherapy services are revolutionizing patient care by meeting people where they are.
• Movement is medicine – physiotherapy should focus on getting people moving, not just applying machines and passive treatments
• The profession originated during World Wars to help injured soldiers regain mobility without fancy equipment
• Mobile physiotherapy offers flexibility for busy professionals and those unable to travel to clinics
• Communication between patient and physiotherapist is crucial for successful treatment outcomes
• "Play chess, not checkers" with your health by thinking long-term about mobility and movement
• Adaptive bodywork techniques can provide faster results than conventional approaches
• Deep squatting is one of the most beneficial movements for maintaining joint health
• Avoid overprescribing exercises – focus on a few effective movements rather than overwhelming patients
• Western societies often undervalue mobility compared to other cultures around the world
• Business ownership teaches valuable lessons about time management and unexpected expenses
Visit constantcarephysio.com or find Jethro on Instagram at @jethrocontant and @constantcarephysio.
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Welcome to Across the Pa. Welcome to Across the Table podcast. I'm your host, dionysius, and today we have a special guest. We have a local business, owner and operator of Constance Care Physiotherapy in the south end of Ottawa. He's a former Canadian University athlete. He holds a Bachelor's of Science from the University of Ottawa with a concentration in Human Kinetics. He holds a Bachelor's of Science from the University of Ottawa with a concentration in human kinetics. He has a Master's of Health Science with a major in physiotherapy from the University of Ottawa. He's a proud husband, a father of four young boys and, unfortunately, he's a proud San Francisco 49ers fan. Welcome to the show, jethro Constantine.
Speaker 2:Well, thank you.
Speaker 1:Thank you for having me how are you today?
Speaker 2:I'm good, man Good.
Speaker 1:Good, let's hop into this. So why did you decide to make your practice offer mobile services within your clinic? Because, generally speaking, most physiotherapists or locations are just a physical location. I have to go to it. So what made that? What brought that about?
Speaker 2:You know what? To be honest, I think a lot, of, a lot of changes and a lot of, like I say, an evolution happened with the practice of physiotherapy during COVID. Okay, Right, the big thing with COVID. You know people were working from home, so getting time off wasn't optimal and you know some people, to be quite honest, were scared to go outside, right with everything that was going on. So when I first started thinking about creating my company, like I was an independent contractor at another location I'm still there working out of that location two days a week, called Human 2.0.
Speaker 2:But then I figured you know what I got to start my own thing. And when that happened it was like, okay, what's the model going to be? So, yes, there's options in clinic, because some people like that clinic setting and some people ask me to go to their gym, some people ask me to go to their home, some people ask me to go to their office. So just the the ability to have, you know, so many options for people and not have it being restricted to one physical location. I figured you know what it's a change of pace and also it will broaden how many people I'm going to see, because some people just can't make it out, for whatever reason. So if I come to them, they're more than happy. So you know, it just seemed like a natural thing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I can speak for myself in terms of habits. I now order food to my house, clothes to my house, services to my house. Do you think mobile physiotherapy will be the way of the future?
Speaker 2:It's a very good question. I think it's a matter of personality. I think some people, especially like professionals and things like that, they're like listen, like you said, I'm going to order food so I can keep working. Thank you, you came to the door. All right, I get my food, I pay for it. It's the same thing with physio. So it's like okay, I know I need this taken care of, so you know you can come to the house, I don't have to worry about a commute and you know you work on me for whatever amount of time, and then I can go back to doing what I'm doing.
Speaker 2:Now, the other thing is it's it's mobile, but it's also like education based Right, in the sense that, yes, I'm going to come and see you, but I make it abundantly clear that, listen, there's 168 hours in a week. If I come to see you for half an hour to an hour, you're not going to see a difference. You, for half an hour to an hour, you're not going to see a difference, right? So, yes, I can come to you and I can help you out on the spot, but heed my warnings at the same time. And if I give you homework, you know that's one of the big things with me is there's an element of accountability and there's also an element of access, right?
Speaker 2:Because one of the things is, with a lot of physiotherapists it's like, okay, I'm seeing my physiotherapist on tuesday, uh, he made an appointment for me to see him or her to see an appointment, see them for an appointment in a week. In that week a lot could happen, right? So, being a mobile service and being a service that provides access, then you don't have to wait till the week after you can. You can message me two days, like like in two days, and say, hey, this ain't working, give me some programming, this is a little bit tough for me. Or, oh, can you come back sooner? You know things like that. So, in terms of asking, is it the wave of the future? Yes, cause I think that people, you know, especially after COVID, they're realizing, hey, I need to move more and I need to do that by any means necessary, whether that's fitting it into my workday at home, whether it's me taking time off work, whatever the case may be, I have to do something.
Speaker 1:Okay, I don't know how our paths crossed. All I know is my mom was sick and she had an injury and she needed therapy physiotherapy. Your name came across my table and I introduced the two of you and, I'll be honest, I was a little shocked. Generally speaking, it takes a while to see some type of progression with my mom. Within a week I saw a progression. You kind of touched on it. But what are one or two things you do differently at constant care physiotherapy that others may not do?
Speaker 2:Well, you know, yes, it's a constant care thing, but I do know that there's a lot of other practitioners that have the same mentality as me. I'm just movement is medicine. Okay, movement is medicine. So one of the biggest differences is somewhere along the lines, in our profession there has been a little bit of confusion, a bit of misconception that has come along.
Speaker 2:Misconception that has come along, that misconception being hey, I go to physiotherapy, they put their hands on me for like three to five minutes and then they put machines on me and then I'll be back in a week, right, whereas the profession of physiotherapy started during the World Wars and what it was was to get soldiers not necessarily back into action, but back on their feet after an injury. There were no machines back then, there were no ice packs readily available. You know, during wartime it was oh, okay, you happen to be next to an explosion and now you can't walk. Okay, well, we got to get you up and get you walking, so they would pick them up. They would, you know, uh, push them into moving right, and somewhere along the lines, call it, you know, call it capitalism, call it whatever, right, call it being a cash cow, uh, type of situation.
Speaker 2:It, oh, we invented this machine and that machine. Oh, you mean, I could see four people at the same time and and it, just it, it just got lost. You know what I mean. So kudos to the physios who don't do that. I'm going to hate on the hustlers who do it that way as well. I'm not calling out names, but the number of times I've seen people who I started working with and they're like oh, this is physiotherapy. I've been to physiotherapy before. This isn't physiotherapy. I'm like, yes, it is.
Speaker 1:Those were the same sentiments my mom had. She was like this is different, this is not. And she was elated I can move, I can do this, I can do that. I was like okay.
Speaker 2:But that's the goal, right? Like, the goal is not for you to see me forever. Some people will see me for maintenance. Or sometimes, yes, there are injuries that are longer term, but there's no, okay, you're going to be my patient for the rest of your life. It's one of those things where it's like, okay, I'm going to get you moving. I want to give you education to the point that I have patients that come back and by the time they come back, they're like oh yeah, I forgot.
Speaker 2:Like, the last time I saw you, you told me to do this, this, this, this, this, and I felt better and I stopped doing it and I'm like so you treated yourself, like you didn't, you didn't even really need me, and the way I look at it is like okay, yes, as you stated, like I have four sons. We're a family of six, you know, including my wife. So, yeah, I could. I could go down that route of just trying to be a cash cow, sure, but I feel like there's a sense of integrity there where I don't want to just do things for the sake of doing it to. You know, pay my bills.
Speaker 2:Anyone who knows me is I get personally invested in you know whomever I'm working with right, like I want to see them be better. So, you know, if, if they're not getting better, then you can even ask my wife, like I'll be at home and she'll see me kind of just stewing and she's like, what's up? I'm like, ah, you know, it's just someone I saw today. I'm just trying to figure out you know what, what the issue was or whatever the case may be. You know what I mean. So it's just like movement is medicine. You got to get people moving. That's the bottom line. That's the whole point of why they're coming to see you. They're coming to see you because there's an issue with the way they're moving or the way they're feeling physically. You have to get them moving. You have to. Okay, okay.
Speaker 1:One of the things I was going to ask is you know, what do you see in your eyes that other physiotherapists are maybe potentially doing wrong? But you kind of really harped on that, I think, without saying it is, some are just in it simply for the money, as opposed to actually taking care of patients, and I think that's true of every profession. There's going to be people who take advantage of it. In terms of my self-personal experience as a university athlete, I got injured, you know, playing men's league, thinking I was in the NBA. I got injured, knock on wood.
Speaker 1:I haven't been injured recently, but when I went to physiotherapy I would say from the age of 16 till even now, 90% of the process is the same, like you touched on it's I come in, I get an ice pack, I go over there, I grab the ice pack, I sit there. 15, 10 minutes later they come over. I'm either doing a TENS machine, I'm doing physiotherapy. Oh, here's an exercise, here's some strengthening and here's the bill. See you later. Um, if you had 30 seconds to convince someone why they need physiotherapy, what would you say?
Speaker 2:I'd say that, um, well, I'll. I'll use a cliche that I use a lot Okay, when it comes to physiotherapy and your long-term health goals, your longevity, you have to play chess, not checkers. What I mean by that is you have to look at what's the long-term goal, right? A lot of people that I see, you know they come and see me when they're five years out of retirement, so they spent all their time losing their mobility and their ability to move. Now they have this short window to get it back.
Speaker 2:You've got to think long-term, like okay, I want to play with my kids, I want to play with my grandkids, I want to travel, I want to be able to play sports, adult leagues right, I want to be able to dance with my wife. I want to be able to do all these different things. So my pitch right there is just do you enjoy moving now? Yeah, don't you want to keep moving without feeling pain, soreness or not moving optimally? And when I say moving optimally, I'm not saying just getting from point A to point B. I'm saying you can skip from point A to point B, you can jump from point A to point B, you can run from point A to point B, not just get there right. You want to get there and feel good about how you got there.
Speaker 1:I like that. Yeah, I'm going to have a couple people call you after this. Yeah, I'm going to have a couple people call you after this. What's one thing you wish every potential?
Speaker 2:patient understood before they come to see you. Okay, uh-oh. Well, there's a lot, but if I want to really narrow it down, you are coming to see us for our expertise, right, right, so you can Google things till the cows come home, but have an open mind as to what we're saying, because, at the end of the day, you're coming to us for our expertise and for help, right? Or else you wouldn't need to come and see us. So you know, whether it's whether it's myself, whether it's a massage therapist, whether it's a car, whether it's whatever, know that you are coming to us. We didn't go look for y'all, right, you came to us and you are coming to us to help us, to help you solve a problem in terms of pain or function or whatever the case may be. So keep that in mind when you are communicating with a healthcare practitioner, that they're there to help you, right? So, like you know, I'm a little bit lucky, like I'm a large black man. It's not often, if at all, that I'm going to have someone you know speak any type of way or give attitude or things like that. But you know, when people get mad at you, it's like yo, you came to me. You know, like I'm trying to help you out, right, you know so. Just know that we're trying to help you as best as we can, right, and there's no guarantees. That's the other thing too. That's what's big.
Speaker 2:Some people think that they go into a situation and it's like it's a guaranteed solution. I like to think that I know what I'm doing and that, you know, god's blessed me with the ability to do the job that I do, but there are no guarantees. I'm not saying I have a success rate of 100 percent here. You know what I mean. Like, sometimes there could be another issue that I can't help you with. Maybe it's something else that's going to help you. Maybe there's, you know, a nutrient deficiency. Maybe there's something else. Maybe there's something I don't see Right, because as practitioners we are still fallible, because we're human beings. Okay, you know what I mean. We may see one thing and get it wrong. You know what I mean. Oh, I think you have this sprain. Oh, actually it's fracture. My apologies, you know what I mean, but that's why I know for me personally, I will.
Speaker 2:I'm hardheaded like that, where I will try and try and try and help you, but I also understand that if something is not getting better, I'll be the first one to say, hey, let's get some scans, maybe there's something we're not seeing here. So you know, I can only take it as far as I can't see inside your body. We're only taking it as far as we can go. If I can't help you in any way, shape or form, I'll either refer you to someone like a sports med doctor or whatever, or I'll say, hey, you should maybe get some scans.
Speaker 2:Or sometimes it just doesn't fit as like in terms of me being your physiotherapist. You might find another physiotherapist that you jive with a little bit more, but you have to be able to have that. Like you know, my sisters broke my brain when I was a kid. Okay, so me feeling shame, it's not a thing. So if someone's like, hey, you know I worked with this physiotherapist, it just it was a better fit, I'm like all right, cool, are you feeling better? That's okay. Okay, that's all that matters, that's.
Speaker 1:I'll admit myself I'm not necessarily the best patient I know. When I had my thumb fractured or some knee issues, it was do this three times a day and I would really only do it once a day. Are there common mistakes you see people make within the process of healing themselves? That that it's. It's very obvious and it's just consistent with across the board uh, communication, communication.
Speaker 2:What I mean by that is they don't ask questions, they don't comment like, for example, you, they, you know whoever. Whomever gave you exercises to do, gave you movements to do yeah. Did they follow up with you? Did they say, hey, how are you doing with exercises? Is there one that's bothering you? Is there one that you'd really doing well with? How? How consistently are you doing it? Are you doing it as a again? Part of that is the honor system.
Speaker 2:With whomever your, your patient is right. It's. It's a matter of again communicating and I like to establish that right from the beginning. It's like listen, we're going to be on a bit of a journey, so you got to be honest with me. I'm going to be honest with you. I'm not going to have you come here every week and just take your resources and you're not getting better, and I know you're not going to get better. You know what I mean. But I need, on the flip side, for you to tell me, hey, this is working for me, this is not working for me, and we'll adjust based on how you're doing. You know what I mean. Like if you tell me one of the biggest mistakes. I've been doing this for over 15 years. Okay, I know I look pretty, though.
Speaker 2:I've been doing this for over 15 years, but I know that when I talk to a patient, I'm going to say listen, like I said to you earlier, what you do here is just guidance. The rest of the week belongs to you. I'm not with you, but at the same time I'll say hey, if you are not sure about something, if you have questions about something like, just communicate it with me, because the next time you come in I'm going to know whether you did what I asked you to do or not. Like I'm going to be able to tell you know what I mean For the most part, just because I've been doing it for so long. So the biggest misconception I would say is really not communicating your needs, what you want to do. And I'll say one of the biggest mistakes that physiotherapists make I did it when I did it earlier in my career. I don't do it now Do not over prescribe things to people.
Speaker 2:What I mean by over prescribe? If I see a young gentleman come in or a young woman come in and I say, okay, here you go. Here are 12 exercises I want you to do. How many do you think she's going to do? Three, if that right? I'm a big fan of trying to look for efficiency. So if I, if I give you 12, if you come in and tell me oh, it's worse, which of those 12 made it worse?
Speaker 1:No idea.
Speaker 2:Oh, I feel better. Which of those 12 made it better? Made it worse? No idea. Oh, I feel better. Which of those 12 made it better? I have no idea, right? So typically I will give people like tools, right, I'll say, okay, here's, here's like four exercises, here's five exercises. I may eventually give you a total of like maybe 10, 15, whatever, but I'll never say do them all. I'll say do two or three kind of pick and choose, do a few here, do a few there, just so that you can expose your body to different things. But don't over-prescribe, because a lot of times I get patients and they're like, yeah, my last physio gave me like 12 exercises and I did none. And I'm like I would do none either if someone gave me that many. You know what I mean. So yeah, man.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so you've been in, like you said, about 15 years in the game. What's one of the most unconventional or surprising treatment therapies you've ever tried with a patient?
Speaker 2:uh, interesting. Well, there's. There's a type of technique that I use called, uh, adaptive body work. I learned it from a therapist by the name of John Sutherland out of the Quebec side, and he learned it from someone on the US side. What it is is basically, it's very similar to ART, except like you use Sorry.
Speaker 1:ART Break it down for me so.
Speaker 2:ART is active release therapy, so it's a technique to release deep tissue, scar tissue, things like that, whereas adaptive body work is very similar to that, but instead of using your hands and movement, you still use your hands, but you use different body parts as well. A lot of times, people will come in and they'll see me stepping on people, they'll see me digging my elbow into people.
Speaker 1:Sorry, give me the metrics. What are you like? Six I have good body control, though, so so, so they don't, they don't have to worry about my, my weight.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean, okay, um, just make sure you don't make fun of the niners or anything like that before the treatment starts. If you want to make fun of them, make fun of them after. You know what I mean, um, but yeah, it's just just. I found adaptive body work is a big one that works really well and what would be examples that people would see that to connect, connect the two uh, so uh, between adaptive body work yeah and art yeah, like uh cupping, for example.
Speaker 1:What would that be?
Speaker 2:uh, cupping is is more of like a passive modality. What do you mean by passive? Is like the patient doesn't have to really do anything, correct, right, uh? Whereas, uh, adaptive body work, you typically have the patient doing a movement while you're applying pressure somewhere to uh release the muscle, right, so, like, for example, like I might step on the person's shoulder and have them move around at the same time, uh, why? Because, uh, what it, uh, what it does is, um, so muscle is encapsulated by what's called fascia, so it's just like a thin sheath, um, think of like a sausage, right, there's like a thin sheath on the sausage and then everything inside.
Speaker 2:So what you're doing is you're creating, you're putting pressure and then creating friction so that that thin sheath can expand, and then, once that thin sheath expands, it allows the muscle within to breathe, so then it makes things a little bit looser. So I find it's really good for tight muscles. You get results pretty quickly, and especially with people, post-operatively, within protocol, within protocol in different body parts, and you never step on a joint, you never put an elbow on a joint, you never do things like that. It's usually the supporting structures around it. I just find that you tend to get results fairly quickly using those types of techniques. Of course, you also have to encourage like stay hydrated and different things like that, and continue to stretch, continue to do the exercises so that those effects are long-lasting Okay.
Speaker 1:Yeah, this is going to be a broad one, but for someone hearing this or watching this busy lifestyle and they only have five to 10 minutes a day to improve their health, what would you suggest they do?
Speaker 2:Well, first and foremost, move. That's the first thing. Man, five, 10 minutes Are you a superhero? You got five, ten minutes in a day? That's it dang. Okay.
Speaker 2:Um, I would say, uh, grab a support if you don't, if you're not able to, but get into a deep squat. Okay, get into a deep squat. Squat as deep as you can, because you'll notice, you look, are you holding it or are you just going? I would hold it, I would hold it and just kind of hang out there, maybe shift your weight side to side, open up, just kind of move around in that deep squat as much as possible. Um, move the shoulders around, you know. Move the neck around, just move. The reason I say squat is because it hits a lot of things, right. It opens up your hips, it opens up your low back, it opens up your ankles. If you're in that squat and you move your shoulders, you're doing all of that at the same time.
Speaker 2:And we also live in a Western society where, like, mobility is not the greatest right, like we saw that during COVID, how you know it was, it was the Western world that seemed to get really beat down. Right, and what do we know about the Western society is like we're not the healthiest society, right. But if you look in countries of the world, like if you look at Africa, if you look in Asia, like a lot of them could just get into a deep squat and just kind of chill there, right To the point that you look in some countries in Asia, like there's, they don't even have seats at their bus stops. It's literally just either stand or get into a squat, that's it, right. You look at Africa, right, people just get into a squat, they have no problem, right.
Speaker 2:And I always laugh when some ignorant people sometimes will be talking about Africa and they're like oh look, are they as civilized as this? I'm like yo, they can move. Just because you can throw a donut in the microwave doesn't mean you're more civilized than the next person. That's true. You can just, and they move way better than you can. You know what I mean. So it's really again to answer your question. If it's really, move my neck around for five minutes or so and just keep it moving after that, okay.
Speaker 1:Um, as a business owner myself, I've, I've always, I'm always growing, evolving professionally and personally. Um being that, you've owned your business for how long now?
Speaker 2:Uh, I've been an independent contractor for a while and then I incorporated in 2023.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah, what's the most unexpected lesson you've learned from? From running your own business?
Speaker 2:Uh well, two things. Your time is valuable right, Especially with four kids.
Speaker 1:With four kids and my wife Exactly.
Speaker 2:Your time is valuable and expenses accumulate fast Okay, very, very fast. I know, especially as a physiotherapist, there's so many fees and things like that. But when you get to getting to a corporate level of things, after incorporating the expenses of accountants, bookkeepers, this, that it accumulates really, really fast. You know what I mean. So, so really, just take into account everything. You know, I'm, I'm, I'm still in the process of learning. Like I said, I've been incorporated since 2023. So we're talking like a year and a half, two years, which is a little bit different from, you know, being an independent contractor. Right like now, you know I'll get an email from my bookkeeper. She'll be like yo, justify this, and I'm just like, okay, yeah, okay, yeah, I spent it on this, or I had a couple drinks.
Speaker 1:My 49ers lost in the super bowl.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's cold, that's cold, that's cold, that's cold, that's cold. The refs cheated, but that's cool. Um, oh, man, but yeah, I'd say that's, that's probably the biggest. Your time is valuable and, uh, and you know that, uh, your, your expenses accumulate quickly. However, um, you do have a sense of freedom, okay, which feels good. Right, you're not beholden to anybody. Um, you are to yourself, though, right, yes to, but what I mean by that is like if, if, for example, my wife or one of my kids are like oh you know, can you, I have this going on, can you take this day off? I just look in the mirror and I asked my boss Right, see what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:So so there is a sense of freedom there, where you don't have to, you don't have, you don't have to ask anybody. Well, my wife is kind of my boss, but you know, I love you, um, but uh, you just kind of, you know, are able to just make moves right um for yourself, which is really nice um, I know you've treated some high profile athletes, particularly when they come home in the summer.
Speaker 1:What would you say is the most rewarding experience you've had as a physiotherapist?
Speaker 2:uh, it's, it's kind of cool when you see, um, when you see one of your patients winning a championship and you know how much work they put in, and it's's not even like a, like a, like a, let's say, it's not like a thing of self-pride or anything like that, it's just like you look at them and you're like man, that person worked hard, they made a sacrifice, they made a sacrifice and they achieved a goal. So it's really nice to see that. It's nice to see you know whether they win a championship, whether they make it to uh, you know, another level that they were trying to make it to um, they, they signed a new contract, like stuff like that, like it's, it's.
Speaker 1:It's very rewarding when you see that it's really, really cool. Uh, so I am, let's say I'm 16 years old, 15, 16 years old. What day-to-day movement stretches would you recommend for me to do at that age to ensure that my body's going to be okay if I want to be a professional athlete in six, ten years?
Speaker 2:Excuse me, that's a good question. I mentioned the deep squat already. I mentioned the deep squat, then I would also. I would probably throw in there. Um, there's these movements called controlled articular rotations it's kind of a fancy word just for rotation of a joint. Okay, um, just do that throughout the body. Give me so. So like a scapular car would just be moving my shoulder like that.
Speaker 1:So you mean like in middle class teachers talking they're just straight up straight up, straight up, or just moving my neck or moving my hips.
Speaker 2:The same way, just keep, keep your, your joints, uh, lubricated, yeah, lubricated as much as possible, because if you don't use it you lose it. Right, and that's one of the biggest things in the society. Man, I see, I'm 42 years old. I have no business moving better than 14 year olds, 15 year olds, 16 year old, no business like. But again, a lot of that is gaming, social media, you know, things like that.
Speaker 2:Where they just stay seated, it's just, it's, it's terrible, right, you know, um, being on your computer sitting in class. That's why, I know, for me personally, I, you know, my wife and I, we had this discussion and one of the reasons we purposely put our kids in a sports study school was so that they move right. Because just sitting at a desk, like that, ain't it, man, like there's a reason why, if you look at Scandinavian countries, like they don't really put their kids in classrooms until like intermediate school, you know what I mean. Like they, they know that. You know from kindergarten, all the way to like grade six, grade seven. It makes no sense to have them just sitting in class, not to mention, like you know you start to see the differences between boys and girls. Like, ask a, ask a young boy to sit in class for hours.
Speaker 1:It's not going to happen.
Speaker 2:It's not going to happen. You know what I mean. So just you know, try and move every joint, keep them moving, keep them lubricated, and that's that's the first thing to start with. I would say. Then, after that you know you could go into some specialty movements or whatever, but start with that for sure.
Speaker 1:Um, wrapping up here, just going to have a couple of questions. Sure, If you weren't a physiotherapist? Um, what completely unrelated career would you, would you be pursuing right now?
Speaker 2:Well, funny story. Um, before I uh, I went into human kinetics, I actually did a year of mechanical engineering.
Speaker 1:Yeah, um you don't strive, sorry, I'm just saying.
Speaker 2:You know what my wife says, that she describes me as a jerk. Let me explain. She says you're a jock and a nerd, so you're kind of a jerk and I'm like okay, I'll take that.
Speaker 2:At first I was like, what did I do? But I love physiotherapy, I love the body. Yeah, I was like, what did I do? But, like you know, I love, I love physiotherapy, I love the body, but I'm I'm big on like mathematics, problem solving things like that. I really, really love that. I don't think I would have stayed in mechanical engineering just because the as you go further along in mechanical engineering, it's like the numbers disappeared. Everything becomes very theoretical. Further along in mechanical engineering, it's like the numbers disappear, everything becomes very theoretical. So I think if I wasn't a physiotherapist, I think I'd probably be a teacher, probably. I don't know these bad-ass kids these days. I don't know. I don't know if I'd still be a teacher, but-.
Speaker 1:You know, that's what someone's saying about yours right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, hey, listen, I knew what I was, so it is what it is. I knew I be a teacher, but you know, that's what someone's saying about yours, right? Yeah, hey, hey, listen, listen. I knew what I was so it is what it is.
Speaker 2:I knew I was a smart ass, I knew all that stuff. So, yeah, I think I'd probably be teaching in some capacity. If not, I don't know, you know what? If not, don't worry, babe, don't, babe, don't, don't kill me when I say this. I probably would have, I could see myself being something like a firefighter, oh, something, something like that. Oh, yeah, yeah, just because it's still physical, right, what I mean? So, and it, I I feel like my calling is service in some, in some capacity. So that's why, like you know, as a teacher, you're serving, as a, as a firefighter, you'd be serving, um, so I just feel like, right now, as a physiotherapist, like this is my calling I'm as a teacher, you're serving, as a firefighter, you'd be serving.
Speaker 1:So I just feel like right now as a physiotherapist. This is my calling. I'm serving. Okay, I got you. What's one thing people can't find out about you from Google?
Speaker 2:One thing they can't find out about me. The first thing that popped in my mind is that I'm crazy. What could they not find about me on Google? I am a that I'm extremely open-minded, okay Borderlining on wearing a foil hat, I ain't going to put a label on myself, but I'm very open-minded, okay, and I really take to heart the concept of. I truly believe I know nothing, so I'm always in the search of learning, okay.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah, favorite quote or one book you think everyone should read?
Speaker 2:Favorite quote, carpe Diem, which is Latin for seize the day. Who's, oh, favorite quote? Sorry, yeah, favorite quote. Seize the day. Just again, life's short. One of the things we take for granted the most is that we make it home every night. So Carpe Diem's a big one. Obviously, with my beliefs as a christian, I want to say the bible, uh, as a book, because you can. You can find everything in there. You can find poetry, you can find lessons, you can find drama, you can find an hbo series level of violence. You a lot of things in there. In terms of a novel, I'd put it up there between either To Kill a Mockingbird or Lord of the Flies, okay.
Speaker 1:Lord of the Flies.
Speaker 2:Okay, I have another one, but that's Foil Hat. I ain't gonna say that We'll leave that alone.
Speaker 1:We'll leave that one alone YouTube might ban me. You're stuck on an island, you can take only three items with you and people aren't an option. What are you taking?
Speaker 2:People aren't an option. Yeah, my glasses. My glasses, a photo album and the Bible.
Speaker 1:Okay If you could collaborate with anyone in the world, whether within healthcare or in another industry who would it be and why?
Speaker 2:No disrespect to you. Probably collaborate with Joe Rogan Just because he has a platform Right, and if you want to get a message out, you might as well go to the biggest platform that you can find and kind of scream from the hilltops.
Speaker 1:Right. What's the best advice you ever received?
Speaker 2:Ooh, best advice I ever got got, probably from my mom put everything in God. From my mom put everything in God's hands thank you for that.
Speaker 1:That was a great interview. I enjoyed that. Where can people find you and get in contact with you?
Speaker 2:They can find me. I have my company website, which is wwwconstantcarephysiocom. They can also find me on Instagram jcon J-C-O-N, the T-H-A Okay Physio. P-h-y-s-i-on, the T-H-A physio P-H-Y S-I-O, and I also have like a subsequent IG which is at constant care physio as well, and I have like my own YouTube channel, thoughts with jet. Where. So the tinfoil hat stuff comes out or nah, it's more like pop culture, just cracking jokes, my a lot of of edits and stuff, just my thoughts on certain things, my perspectives on certain things. Okay, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay, well, jethro, thank you for that. We enjoyed that and we'll see you in the next one.
Speaker 2:Thank, you for having me Appreciate you.